Real Talk By: “The Wizard” Jeremy Forest
This is going to be something I wish I had back in 1998 when I started collecting Turbo Grafx 16 games. This is going to be a guide on how to buy the best and most reliable Turbo Grafx 16/PC Engine setup, to play most of the library on real hardware, that isn’t prone to breaking. I will also go into a brief description of SOME of the various consoles released and the difference between all the Hu-Card, CD Rom2, Super CD Rom2, Arcade CD Rom2, Super Grafx Hu-Card, and Game Express CD-ROM games. By the end there should only be a few options if you plan on collecting Turbo Grafx/PC Engine games. Depending on whether you want to go the Japanese route, the American route, or both. Keep in mind that although the TurboGrafx 16 was not a huge hit in America, the PCE was incredibly popular in Japan, and has a huge library of games.
Basically the Turbo Grafx 16 (America) and the PC Engine (Japan) are two of the same consoles but with different names. From now on we will just refer to both as PCE for short. When you first want to start collecting PCE the first thing you need to ask yourself is “do I want to play solely USA or Japanese Hu-Cards, or both?” The CD Rom games do not matter at this point as they are All with exception of Arcade CD Rom, and Games Express CD Roms region free. So don’t worry about playing Castlevania Dracula X because it will work on either region console. However, the Hu-Cards are NOT region free. So here’s how it works in layman’s terms.
Hu-Card = Region locked
CD games = Region free (but you must have the correct System Card to launch)
It does get a bit more complex if you own a console and are looking to pick up a CD attachment, but just assume for now if you purchase a console with the name “Duo” in it, that any CD game will work except the Game Express and Arcade Card games. We will get into that later, but first let’s find you a console!
Turbo Grafx 16 console (USA only): This is a loose system you can only play Hu-Cards on. Keep in mind there are no composite video jacks which means you are going to have crap video quality. There is also no save support other than long passwords. In order to get the save support and AV inputs you’re going to need a Turbo Booster+, which is expensive, or buy the CD Rom docking bay which is the only option to play CD Roms. Then you still need the 3.0 card to play the good CD’s. This is all a bad option if you ever want to play CD’s. It’s very expensive (probably well over $350.00) and the CD Attachments break. Super CD Rom 3.0 cards are very hard to find and usually over $100.00. It is also worth noting if you care about the condition of your games that the way the American TG16 is built, that it will scratch the bottom or your Hu-Cards, and leave black lines on the bottom of them.
Turbo Express: The American handheld. These break as well. Prone to having dead pixels on-screen. I do not recommend these, but can be nice if you get one that someone recapped.
Turbo Duo (USA & Japanese variations): This is the TurboGrafx 16 version 2. It has the Super System Card 3.0 built-in, so you can play any CD-Rom or Super CD Rom 2 games. It also has on board composite AV jacks, and internal save built right in. It will play all American Hu-Cards, and any region CD game if you own a USA Duo, or any region CD game, and only Japanese Hu-Cards if you have the Japanese Duo. This will not play CD Rom games that need Arcade Cards or Games Express cards. It doesn’t matter which region console you have, these cards are not built in. So keep in mind if you have a USA Turbo Duo you’re not playing those games unless you have a way to play Japanese games on your American console.
On paper the Duo sounds like a good option. This however is one of the poorest options. Unfortunately the Turbo Duo’s break a lot. Take this from me, I have owned about 10 of these and have friends who have ALL had consoles that broke. The CD players eventually die (and they will die). You must hit select and press run to close all games but they will still die, it’s just a matter of time. The problem has been traced down to a resistor on the motherboard, so unless you have soldering skills, or can track down one of the 2 people online who fix these then you’re pretty much screwed. It will start with the CD sound cutting out, and eventually going out completely. Just avoid all the American setups. If you are worried about not being able to play American Hu-Cards at this point because I am suggesting a Japanese console, please read on. I will help you figure that out.
Here are some of the Japanese options. There are far too many I’m not going to get into like the Shuttle, LaserActive, and LT. Most are too expensive, still break, and are mainly for hardcore collectors.
PC engine (original white one): The same as the American TurboGrafx 16 but a better look. You can hook a CD rom player to it, but just like the American version these CD Rom units are prone to breaking. This system does however look really appealing if you have the CD attachment. The original PC Engine with the CD attachment is what is called a “Briefcase Unit” because it has a cool lid with a handle that looks like a briefcase. This is not a Duo console, so expect to hunt down various System Cards if you want to play CD games. It is also worth noting that sometimes the way the CD attachment hooks to the actual PC Engine console can be kind in finicky. You might have to wiggle the CD Rom unit until it gets a good connection. It’s kind of a weird setup because the real briefcase is more of an interface unit where the PC Engine and the CD player do not actually hook into each other. The briefcase is more of a hub that the two pieces of hardware sit in.
Core Grafx and Core Grafx II: These are same other than color, and both have AV jacks. This will only play Japanese Hu-Cards. So if Hu-Cards only is what you are looking for this may be the best and cheapest option. You can hook a CD player to it, but they do break. I actually really like the Core Grafx for just Hu-Cards, but a good rule of thumb is if you want to play CD games, and you need to hunt down more than one piece of hardware then you are not getting and ideal setup.
PC Engine Duo-R and Duo-RX: These are the second model of the Duo consoles only sold in Japan. As far as I know they are identical with exception that the RX comes with a 6 button controller. These were made with high quality parts and do not break as much. In fact I have never had one break. These will play everything a Duo console will, but will still require respective Arcade Card or Games Express Cards for those types of CD games. This is really the only real option to play Hu-Cards and CD Roms, and you will have access to Arcade Card and Games Express games without the need for a region switch or overly-expensive converter.
Super Grafx: This is a model that plays only Japanese Hu-Cards and Super Grafx Hu-Cards. This is the only option that when a CD Rom unit is installed, will give you access to the entire library of Japanese games (nearly 700 games). Keep in mind though that the CD units break, and you also need a RAU-30 adaptor to hook up the CD Rom player if you can even find the incredibly rare and expensive CD Rom player. This setup will probably cost you over $600.00, and the Super Grafx had a total of 7 games released. This is just not worth it in my opinion. There were a few cool Super Grafx games, but I cannot justify or recommend spending double for a console to have access to 7 more games. You should really research the extra games and decide if you really can logically pay the premium price, and deal with the hassle of CD attachments and System Cards for a few extra available games to play. I will tell you now that Ghouls n Ghosts is the best Super Grafx game by far, but it has been released as a direct arcade port many times over. The Super Grafx version is arguably better than the arcade version, but I did not see much difference.
That’s all I am going to get into now for the consoles as those are your only real options. Let’s go into detail about the kinds of software, and then I will give you the best options at the end for a perfect setup.
Versions of Software
American Hu-Cards: (Huey’s for short): Will only play on USA consoles. These are mini cartridges that look like credit cards. The American library is VERY weak to say the least. There are only a small handful of American exclusive Hu-Cards only released in America, and most of them are the biggest turds on the console. I’m looking at you Gun Boat and Darkwing Duck! If you remember the 80’s and 90’s, then you probably remember this was the time, with exception of PC gaming, that any game developed exclusively in America pretty much sucked. Times have changed for sure, but that rule holds fast for the TurboGrafx 16. In my opinion the only English exclusive Huey worth owning is Order of the Griffon, but still it is not an amazing game by any means. On a side note only cards toward the end of the system’s lifespan have art on the cards. The early American Huey’s look like total crap! It will just say something like “Legendary Axe” in big bold red print instead of the sweet art the Japanese Huey’s received.
Japanese Hu-Cards: Will only play on Japanese consoles. Also have much better cases, and no need to track down expensive card board boxes if that’s your thing, because they never came with them. These are region locked.
CD Rom2: These are the first revision of CD games. They require a Super System Card 2.0 to play. These are early first release games on CD like Monster Lair. It does not matter what region console, region CD game, or region System Card you own, if you can boot the System Card, the CD will run!
Super CD Rom2: These require a system card 3.0 to run. Follow the same guidelines as the 2.o System Card. If you have this card you do not need a 2.0 card as 2.0 is built right in. The Super CD Rom games are the cream of the crop. If you deny yourself access to these games you are missing out on the best PCE has to offer. Some of the greatest games of all time are Super CD Rom 2 games. Getting a unit that can play these games is your first priority!
Arcade Card CD: Rom2 (Duo and Pro variations): These are games that require extra RAM to play (The Arcade Card). Most are ports of arcade games like Fatal Fury. Most people buy these for the excellent shooter Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire which is Arcade Card only. There are Arcade Card versions Duo and Pro. If you own a console with the word Duo in it, get an Arcade Card Duo. If you don’t own a console with the name Duo in it, get an Arcade card Pro.
Games Express Format CD games: These are 3rd party games, don’t think these are licensed… that require their own card to play. These games and the Games Express Card are incredibly hard to find. The most popular Games Express game would be Hi-Leg Fantasy, a parody of Final Fantasy. Good luck finding these anywhere other than Yahoo Japan.
Super Grafx Hu-Cards: Like I said earlier there were only 7 games released on this console. These games will not work in anything other than a Super Grafx console PERIOD! However, a Super Grafx console will play all Japanese HU-Cards.
What to Buy
Here are your options when collecting PCE games. There is enough info in this article to help you make an educated guess, but I am going to list you my personal favorite setups.
1. If you want to play only USA Hu-Cards and CD Roms, buy a Japanese Turbo Duo. Yes the one up top I said was awful. You’re probably thinking “if I want to play only USA games why would I buy a Japanese console?” The reason for this is simple, the Japanese consoles are much cheaper, and readily available than the American Duo. There are also people online on places like the http://www.PCEngineFX.com forums that specialize in buying goods from Japan, fixing them up, and selling them on those forums. The thing is with the Duo Consoles is they have bad capacitors, but once all the capacitors are replaced they are great systems. They just need a little TLC. You can buy a Japanese Duo on those forums, with all new capacitors, a region mod, a new laser assembly, and even a video mod like S-Video, or RGB for a fraction of the cost of an American Duo. I am talking hundreds of dollars in savings. Do the math, don’t buy an American Duo! Use that saved money to buy Y’s Book I&II or Castlevania Dracula X.
2. If you are mainly interested in playing Japanese games your only real option is to get a PC Engine Duo-R or Duo-RX. Just like the Duo Suggestion above, there are well respected modders that will hook you up with a region mod or video upgrade. These are a little harder to find, but the cost of not having to replace the capacitors and laser assembly alone will make up for the cost. You might have to pick one of these up on eBay and ship it to someone to be modded, but you will own one of the best looking consoles ever! Remember, the Duo R/RX units have better internals. All that maintenance is not required yet, but may be in a decade or so.
3. If for some weird reason you are not interested in CD Rom games the absolute best choice is the PC Engine Core Grafx. Remember it has built in AV jacks, but does not have internal battery support, so you must use passwords to save some games. Again, these can easily be modded for a region switch, or video upgrade. If you are dead set on the American TurboGrafx 16 console the best thing to do is get it, and look for the TurboBoster + so you can have internal saving, and AV jacks. You’re going to spend way too much for this setup unless you get really lucky and find one in the wild. Just get a modded Core Grafx.
4. Another really good option for those low on funds, but who want to upgrade to a CD unit some day is to just get a Core Grafx, and to play retail CD games with an emulator like Ootake or Magic Engine. It’s not the same experience as real hardware, but it will hold you over until you can get a good Duo console. Then you can just sell your Core Grafx or TG16 on eBay to help lighten the blow of the Duo cost.
That’s pretty much it for the console suggestions. The moral of this story is buy a Japanese console, get it modded, and have a much better and flexible console for hundreds less! Seriously, sell your American system!
Now I know this is getting pretty long, but PCE is a pretty complex console. There is still one more thing I would like to talk about, and that is “things that are good to know”.
Regarding controllers: The American TurboGrafx 16 has a different controller socket than the American Duo console, and all the Japanese consoles. The USA Turbo Duo and every Japanese PC Engine console have the exact same DB9 controller socket. So all those controllers can be used on any console. The TurboGrafx 16 does not have many choices in the controller department because it has a different controller port, which is just another of the many reasons why it is better to get an American Duo, or any Japanese console. The 3rd party controllers are simply the best out there, and having a console with the better controller port is great. I highly recommend the Hori Fighting Commander 6 Button Controller. It is a great controller that has a Super Nintendo style D-Pad, and all the buttons feel like the A and B buttons on a Super Nintendo controller. Another good option that some people prefer is the Avenue Pad 6. I personally feel the Hori Fighting Commander is better, but one thing is certain, both are much better than the controller that came with the console. Also take note that every single controller has an incredibly short 3ft cord. It is mandatory in most situations to get an extension cable. You can easily find these on ebay.
About internal game saves: If your console has internal saves you need to know that the data will erase if you do not power your console on for an hour or so every few weeks. In order for the saves to retain this must be done so the battery can charge. I personally like a little device called the Ten No Koe Bank. The Ten No Koe Bank is sort of a memory card for storing data. It can hold I believe 3X the amount of data the console can, but it works kind of weird. You cannot save directly to the card. You cannot transfer a single games data to the card either. Its sole purpose is to transfer the entire memory bank on your console to the card, or 1 of the 3 memory banks on the card to your console. It’s more for switching entire “banks” of data. Highly useful, but kind of a pain. The card actually has a hidden CR2032 lithium battery hidden under the hump on the cover. There is no really good way to change the battery except to pry the cover off and electric tape a new battery in, taking great care not to break the metal tabs.
About the Turbo Everdrive: The Turbo Everdrive is an excellent 3rd party accessory created by a fella names Krikzz from Ukraine. This little beast can be loaded up with Hu-Card roms and played on your console in all their perfect glory. It is also a great tool for independent developers for testing games created on actual hardware. This thing actually looks like a Hu-Card, and has a near perfect compatibility rate provided you are using clean roms. This is not emulation! There is no slowdown, the console thinks you are playing a genuine game. At around $80.00 this thing is a steal for trying out games before committing to a purchase. You cannot go wrong with a Turbo Everdrive from http://shop.krikzz.com/
Regarding import converters: Some of you are probably wondering why I haven’t been talking about import converters. There is a reason for that. Import converters like the Kisado, and Diving Board are way too expensive! If you own one of these, odds are you can sell it and have your console recapped, get a video mod, a new laser assembly, and a region switch installed, and still have money left over. I have been out of the converter loop for many years, there may be pretty good ones now, but if you are spending more than $30.00 on one you might as well get a hard mod region switch. Anytime you are putting a converter between the game and the console, you have to deal with another connection. These things are annoying, expensive, and can be a pain to get to work. Just get the mod and be done with it!
That’s pretty much it. I hope this article was a help. I plan on writing more PCE stuff in the future as it is my favorite console of all time. If you have any questions please post in the bottom.
26 thoughts on “Turbo Grafx 16/PC Engine Buyers Guide: How To do it Right!”
I made a mistake up top. There was a American hu-Card only release. This is the Hu-Card version of Bonk 3: Bonk’s Big Adventure. However this really doesn’t matter because America and Japan both got a Super CD Release which is far superior. It is also worth noting that there is one America only Super CD-Rom2 game. This is Beyond Shadowgate. A game that is bad, but for some reason hooks you. However it is not worth the hunderds of dollars it sells for on ebay.
LikeLiked by 1 person
This was an error again. I meant to say bonk 3 cd is a exclusive USA title, and the Hu-Card version wasreleased in both regions.
you play your original discs on a PC? C’mon man
LikeLiked by 1 person
I did for awhile. I have a RGB modded duo R now. And I love it.
Good article. Completely agree, the DuoR is the best way to go. It is “the most interesting console in the world”
LikeLiked by 1 person
article is good, BUT i have a turbo grafx and CD set-up with a switch to flip flop in-between jap hu-cards and turbo chips, sure it only reads at 1x, but i’ve never had a problem with it, not even with the gears breaking like all other model ones, it really depends on how its stored and if it was abused to begin with, but those damn f’ing duo’s, i had mine die like ten times, good thing i paid 20 bux for it back in 2002, i replaced the caps, then the cd lens went, replaced cd lens, audio taking a shit again, all the while my trusty model one set-up has never failed me, only system card i use in it is an arcade card pro, sure it loads a little slower but its a beast, and never need to change a damn thing out to play any game other then use a tg-16 to duo controller adapter to use my avenue 6!! i paid 30 bux for my modded gen one that had a.v and region switch and 99.00 for the turbo cd in hard case, both from an old friend and 20 bux on e-bay for the arcade card pro! stryder still looks like crap though btw lol
LikeLiked by 1 person
Oh and all the TTI games never were released in japan, accolade, icom and the like. darkwing duck,falcon,ghost manor,gunboat(accolade),impossamole,night creatures,D&D:order of the griffon,andre panza kickboxing (only available on super cd in japan as the kickboxing, no hu-card), tale spin, turrican,and yo-bro, i think that’s the complete list based on my research of games only available in the us (hu-cards anyway)
LikeLiked by 1 person
Well I’m glad someone has had better luck than myself. I have had 2 model 1 cd units break on me, and I can’t even count the duo’s. And I treat my consoles like newborn babies. Dust them, power them down right, keep them in good climate, remove the power supply when not in use. And I have friends who have had issues also. I have been getting the itch lately to get a Duo-R again, a modded one. I sold most my collection when my engine blew up in my car about 7 years ago. I had a complete boxed English collection, and CD/SCD collection minus a few games like Godzilla which I never wanted. I managed to keep my English copies of Magical Chase, Dynastic Hero, and Lords of Thunder. Dynastic Hero is probably my favorite game on the console. Luckilly I picked it up for $200.00 back in the day, with Beyond Shadowgate. Now it’s outrageous. I need to get Dungeon Explorer 2 again. I still have a few PC Engine games too like Legenday Axe (love that game). I would love to get a Duo-R and pick up Sylphia, and Sapphire. My buddy has those 2 and they are both great games. I hink the PC Engine is the most under-rated console of all time. When you factor in the amount of good games compared to the number of games released on the console, it even give the old NES and SNES a run for its money.
LikeLiked by 1 person
How did you know I wanted to play Castlevania Dracula X?! Man I love that game, especially the soundtrack and I wanted to hear it straight from the horses mouth, that is, from a PC Engine Duo-R/RX. This article was super helpful, and I can’t wait to get my hands on one. Thanks alot.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Makanfran. I knew because I know all things awesome. Or at least I wish I did. The PSP prt is decent. But you have to unlock it by playing the remixed version first. Definitely worth the $9.00 it goes for on ebay until you can get the real deal.
To the fella from Twitter, a capacitor (cap for short) is a component on a PCB (Printed Circuit Board) that basically helps the hardware work correctly. When these capacitors blow, they cause hardware issues. For example a television might lose the entire video signal if it is a cap on a television set, or in the case of the regular duo, there is a known issues that causes CD sound to go out. So recapping a duo means to replace all the caps on the PCB inside the hardware shell. This help the console work better, and longer. With the original Duo’s this is a mandatory maintenance. For the Duo-R and RX they are made with higher quality components, so right now this is not a issue. Be aware you will save a lot of money likely getting a duo and having it recapped, rather than getting a duo-r. They are very expensive. But they are one of the nicest looking systems in existence in my opinion.
If you are serious about getting some form of duo, just shop around. Look on various forums for USA sellers. Digitpress, Neo-geo.com, Shmupssystem11.org, and assemblergames, all have awesome forums. Oh and PCENGINEFX.COM. If you want a good system, sold recapped, with a new laser, and a s-video mod check out pcenginefx and talk to a guy names keith courage. He sells them ready to go, and even has briefcase units which I also like. If you go the ebay route, which you might have to do to get some form of duo, look for a fella names “APE32”. The 32 part might be wrong there. but you will know him when you find him. He is a expert in modding consoles. I highly recommend. He can be found on Assembler forums, and Digitpress. He is a top notch guy! Highly respected. There is also another guy named “Turbokun” on pcenginefx.com that mods pc engine stuff.
You may also want to check out stoneagegamer.com and look for a turbo everdrive. These are amazing!
Ohh god.. so much information hahahaa, please complete this sentence: “If you want to be able to play the most large amount of game available (including Hu Cards, CD’s, etc) you should buy the……… “
LikeLiked by 1 person
Supergrafx, with super CD-ROM2 attachment and RAU-30 adaptor, or if you don’t care about the few supergrafx games just get a PC Engine Duo, Duo-R, or Duo-RX.
But, how different is the US game library and the Japanese game library? for what i understand almost US game was release also in Japan, and the jap library i way bigger, right?
And the only games i cant play with the PC Engine Duo will be US Hu Card games right? and these games are also available in Japan?
Also, talking about games… how much is the difference in price between the US and the Jap versions?
LikeLiked by 1 person
Also, can you publish photos of the set you recommended? (Supergrafx + super CD-ROM2 attachment + RAU-30 adaptor) just to be sure what you are talking about
I don’t have a super grafx. I decided not to go that route. Too expensive to justify a purchase for a library of less than 10 games. I have a PC Engine Duo-R. I will ask KJ if he can upload some more pics in the post when I get off work tonight if you need me to.
And yes, the Japanese library is MUCH bigger and better. Just get a Japanese system and a Turbo Everdrive
Where should I buy PC Engine games? I’ve been eyeing this site: http://tokyotoyfactory.jp/
Seems good to me, but can you recommend it?
And what other sellers can you recommend?
LikeLiked by 1 person
Your best bet is to join video game forums if you want the best price. I highly recommend neo-geo.com.Com, assembler.com, and pcenginefx. Com. I gave never purchased from there. I use those forums, and if they don’t have what I want I use eBay. But when I use eBay I buy in bulk because shipping is brutal. It’s best to knock a few games out at once if you can’t find decent stuff on a forum. All the good stuff will pop up on forums if you are patient, or ask in a thread and people see it.
Hi, awesome article my friend. I’m from Brazil and here is even more rare to find a Duo console. Actually, I’m now cosidering to buy a Super CD-Rom2 add-on, before even having a proper console to attach to it. Just because it seems a rare opportunity, given the price, and because is much more difficult t find (and commonly more expansive than a single pc engine itself). BUT, because you said this units are prone to break easily, I’m still in the fence. I wonder if this Super CD-ROM2 units are more reliable than the first base unit ones. ‘Cause I think I heard somewhere something like that.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Those units do break. I assume you are talking about the gray unit with red letters on top. Just save your money and get a turbo duo, and have the capacitors replaced. Or get a PC Engine Duo R or RX. Trust me, do not buy any cd attachments.
I picked up a CDROM2 for $99 online with the IFU for $30 and a PCE for $40 all from japan. They even replaced the the gear and all the capacitors in the CDROM. I love my lil system!!!
LikeLiked by 2 people
That’s a sweet deal. You mean the CD that’s gray with the red lettering right? If I got a deal like that I could probably justify getting a supergrafx. I’m jealous
Hey there, I read your thread and I’m still a little confused (I’ll read through again).
What setup do I need if I want the ability to play ANYTHING released for the NEC conoles? No matter how obscure?
That includes the Hu-Card, CD Rom2, Super CD Rom2, Arcade CD Rom2, Super Grafx Hu-Card, and Game Express CD-ROM games (Where there any obscure releases on other media?).
By utilising mods and CD units, will I be able to get a Supergrafx to play the entire catalogue?
Yes, you can play everything pc engine related with a supergrafx. There are other NEC consoles though, I’m talking about the PC FX, nothing will play those games except a pc FX console.
On to your question. You will need a supergrafx console, and a RAU-30 adapter so you can hook up the super CDRom 2 unit. There actually might be one more piece you need. It’s been awhile so you may need to research that. But I am certain you need the rau-30 adapter, and that specific unit I mentioned. To play arcade cards you will then need the ARCADE CARD PRO. Pro is the keyword here. Do NOT get the arcade card duo. To play English Hu cards you will need either a region mod, or a converter. CD games are all region free, provided you can boot the specific system card, arcade card, games express card, etc..
Fir games express cards, you do need a special card, I highly suggest if you buy a games express game, that you make sure it comes with the card. It will be hell tracking down the card without a game.